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Published on November 7, 2004 By iamheather In Politics
XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX SUN NOV 07, 2004 19:02:37 ET XXXXX

BUSH CONSIDERS CLARENCE THOMAS FOR CHIEF JUSTICE

**Exclusive**

President Bush has launched an internal review of the pros and cons of nominating Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas as the chief justice if ailing William Rehnquist retires, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned.

A top White House source familiar with Bush's thinking explains the review of Thomas as chief justice is one of several options currently under serious consideration. But Thomas is Bush's personal favorite to take the position, the source claims.

"It would not only be historic, to nominate a minority as chief justice, symbolizing the president's strong belief in hope and optimism, but it would be a sound judicial move.... Justice Thomas simply has an extraordinary record."

One concern is the amount of political capital Bush would have to spend in congress to make the move.

A chief justice must be separately nominated by Bush and confirmed by the Senate, even if the person is already sitting on the court.

The need to replace Rehnquist could arise by year's end, Bush aides now believe.

Officially, Bush advisers call any Supreme Court vacancy talk premature.

Developing...


Thomas would be nice, but what about Antonin Scalia?

Comments
on Nov 08, 2004

the fact this is not really 'new' news doesnt make it any less scary (here's a LINK to an article i posted in early august 2004 when thomas' biographer announced that thomas might be bush's first choice for chief justice).  obviously there are now additional fear factors involved (bush was reelected; rehnquist has cancer and is unable to fulfill his duties at least temporarily).

my concern about thomas has less to do with his judicial competence (or lack thereof), his party affiliation, his strange recent pronouncements about basing decisions on the declaration of independence since it provides the key to understanding what the founders intended of the constitution or his single 180 degree deviation from his high court record of affirming state supreme court decisions regarding interpretation of state legislation (thus 'electing' george w. bush president in 2000) than it does with his personal ethics.  roughly a year prior to thomas' nomination to the supreme court, i read an article about thomas in which one of his law clerks was interviewed.  the point of the article seemed to be that thomas may be a judge but he's also a regular guy with a good sense of humor. evidencing that trait, the clerk alluded to some recent inter-office joshing about porn flicks, in particular 'long dong silver'.   i was able to locate the publication during thomas' confirmation hearings and made a number of calls attempting to bring that to the attention of those conducting the hearing after thomas swore under oath that he had, in fact, no knowledge of that film or porn films in general. while i can no longer produce the interview (i lost roughly half a 24' ryder truck fulla books and magazines in 1994), it existed and thomas lied during his hearing.

as to your choice of scalia, are you familiar with his opinion that government"...is the minister of God with powers to 'revenge', execute wrath ..."

on Nov 08, 2004
I personally would like to see Scalia as the new CJ as well, but I kind of doubt it. It may well be Thomas, or O'Connor since both would be history making. Since the CJ has no real greater power than the other Justices, I dont see it making too big ofn issue in the Senate. The next Justice to be nominated, however, will. And I believe it will be an Hispanic one.

As for Kingbee's allegation of the 180 degree regarding state supreme court decisions, there is a big difference. The Fla SC was going rogue and writing law, and it had to be stopped. He would have affirmed any sane decision, but even most of the liberal wing of the court said the FLA SC had gone too far. You dont have to be a genius to see they were clearly going to let it go on until Gore somehow found the votes necessary, clearly violating their own constitution.
on Nov 08, 2004

Fla SC was going rogue and writing law,


that's a grossly distorted characterization of the case.  take a look at some of the opinions thomas rendered prior that one and youll see hed never allowed facts to get in the way of consistency til then. 

on Nov 08, 2004

but even most of the liberal wing of the court said the FLA SC had gone too far

which would explain why there was a unanimous decision of course.     as i recall several opposing justices were quite upset about that ruling and the legal community was pretty much baffled by it as well.   im sure there must be an attorney or two in ju who may be able to offer their take on it tho.

on Nov 08, 2004
Congress makes the law
Executive enforces the law
Judicial interprets the law

How hard is it to understand those three basic tenets of our system?

If any court gets into the habit of making laws than we have a case of one branch being out of control; I don't want appointed officials making the laws period.

Grim
on Nov 08, 2004

Reply #1 By: kingbee - 11/8/2004 8:56:34 AM
the fact this is not really 'new' news doesnt make it any less scary (here's a LINK to an article i posted in early august 2004 when thomas' biographer announced that thomas might be bush's first choice for chief justice). obviously there are now additional fear factors involved (bush was reelected; rehnquist has cancer and is unable to fulfill his duties at least temporarily).
my concern about thomas has less to do with his judicial competence (or lack thereof), his party affiliation, his strange recent pronouncements about basing decisions on the declaration of independence since it provides the key to understanding what the founders intended of the constitution or his single 180 degree deviation from his high court record of affirming state supreme court decisions regarding interpretation of state legislation (thus 'electing' george w. bush president in 2000) than it does with his personal ethics. roughly a year prior to thomas' nomination to the supreme court, i read an article about thomas in which one of his law clerks was interviewed. the point of the article seemed to be that thomas may be a judge but he's also a regular guy with a good sense of humor. evidencing that trait, the clerk alluded to some recent inter-office joshing about porn flicks, in particular 'long dong silver'. i was able to locate the publication during thomas' confirmation hearings and made a number of calls attempting to bring that to the attention of those conducting the hearing after thomas swore under oath that he had, in fact, no knowledge of that film or porn films in general. while i can no longer produce the interview (i lost roughly half a 24' ryder truck fulla books and magazines in 1994), it existed and thomas lied during his hearing.
as to your choice of scalia, are you familiar with his opinion that government"...is the minister of God with powers to 'revenge', execute wrath ..."


Oh, so you would rather have Arlin Specter as chief justice? Boy what a mistake that would be!
on Nov 08, 2004
Congress makes the lawExecutive enforces the lawJudicial interprets the lawHow hard is it to understand those three basic tenets of our system?


Amen!!

It may well be Thomas, or O'Connor since both would be history making.


It will not be O'Connor as she has been wanting to retire for some time now, and with Bush's re-election she may very take this opportunity.

on Nov 08, 2004
Congress makes the law
Executive enforces the law
Judicial interprets the law


I thought it was:
Special interests make the law.
Judicial pisses all over the law.
Exuctive breaks the law.

on Nov 08, 2004

Judicial interprets the law

thomas' determination to restrict interpretation of the words such as 'punishment' and 'witness' to what he claims to be their 18th century usages would eliminate constitutional protection against torture by jailers and gut the fifth amendment. thus flawed or agenda-driven interpretation is the equivalent of writing law.

on Nov 08, 2004
If Bush's new appointees truly are "impartial umpires" then I don't know what all the fuss will be about...
on Nov 08, 2004
If Bush's new appointees truly are "impartial umpires" then I don't know what all the fuss will be about...


The article was not about "new appointees". The article was about who would become the new Chief Justice from the existing justices to replace Rehnquist should he retire.
on Nov 13, 2004
The chief has some influence, since he/she assigns responsibility for writing opinions, if I recall correctly, but that is more a procedural responsibility than a lever of legal influence.

I consider Scalia to have the superior intellect, though he can be a bit cranky, but Thomas would be a solid choice. I think the "pubic hair on the Coke can" is finally behind us. I'm a bit more ambivalent about O'Connor - some of her opinions have been a stretch.

Cheers,
Daiwa
on Nov 13, 2004

Just so people know, very rarely is the new chief justice taken from among the old justices.  Scalia and Thomas already agree with the philosophy of George Bush, to appoint one of them to CJ position would not more secure their loyalty.  Rehnquist was made CJ in order to solidify Reagan's support on the Supreme Court.  Bush would be better served by appointing someone else to the CJ position, since it is likely that Bush will appoint at least two, possibly as many as four justices during his term.


Cheers

on Nov 19, 2004
since it is likely that Bush will appoint at least two, possibly as many as four justices during his term.


One can only hope!

I'm a bit more ambivalent about O'Connor - some of her opinions have been a stretch.


Isn't that the truth!